Episode 115

Grit, Growth, and the Dirt Dog Mindset with Chris Hatch

Published on: 5th November, 2025

Amy sits down with Chris Hatch, a partner at Forza Commercial, on today’s Performance Mindset Show. Forza Commercial manages more than 4 million square feet of property. Forza Development handles ground-up retail projects nationwide and multifamily communities throughout the mountain and desert states. Chris is also part of Legend Partners, which is home to at least 20 agents specializing in retail, land, office, industrial, and investment sales. Additionally, he is the founder of Mahalo Pro, a property management company keeping commercial assets running smoothly year-round. Chris is the host of The Dirt Dog Pod, which tells the stories of people who live on the road, building America’s next great retail sites, from gyms to grocery stores to hair salons.

Chris Hatch lives in Salt Lake City, Utah, with his wife and five children.

In this episode, you’ll hear:

  1. What Chris Hatch’s business does and why he decided to create his podcast.
  2. The biggest lessons he’s learned for scaling a management business successfully.
  3. Some of the challenges Chris has had to navigate since starting the management business in 2020.
  4. How he continues to grow the business using simple tactics.
  5. Building resilience in kids through physical work.
  6. The most memorable guests on Chris’s podcast.
  7. Where he sees retail development going in the future, and some of the challenges the industry is facing.
  8. What Chris is excited about for Q4 in 2025.
  9. Some personal facts about Chris Hatch.

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About the Podcast

The Performance Mindset Show
Insights for high performers in business, leadership, and real estate.
The Performance Mindset Show is where high achievers come to grow. Hosted by commercial real estate advisor, entrepreneur, and author Amy Calandrino, each episode dives into the habits, strategies, and stories that help leaders think bigger, perform better, and build meaningful success in business and life.

Amy sits down with trailblazers across commercial real estate, entrepreneurship, investing, health, and personal development to uncover how they overcame obstacles, scaled their impact, and created lives built on intention. These conversations are honest, inspiring, and filled with practical insights you can apply immediately.

Whether you're a business owner, creator, investor, or someone who wants to operate at a higher level, this show will help you strengthen your mindset, sharpen your skills, and stay focused on what matters most.

If you want to grow, you’re in the right place.

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Amy Calandrino

Amy Calandrino, SIOR, CCIM, is a Director at Cushman & Wakefield with deep experience representing small and mid-sized businesses, family enterprises, and private investors throughout Central Florida and beyond. She is known for being a thoughtful listener, a creative problem-solver, and a strategic advisor who helps clients make informed decisions that support both their business goals and long-term wealth creation.

With a career rooted in guiding entrepreneurs and families through pivotal real estate moments, Amy brings clarity, structure, and actionable strategy to every assignment. She has completed hundreds of transactions across office, flex, and retail properties, and clients rely on her strong command of market trends, valuations, and space needs particularly within Winter Park and Greater Orlando. Her experience is backed by the SIOR and CCIM designations, reflecting her commitment to expertise and excellence in the industry.

In addition to her advisory work, Amy is the author of From Perfect to Real: Ditch Perfection, Shift Your Mindset, and Thrive on Your Terms, where she shares her SPORT Success System® for high performance. She is also the host of The Performance Mindset Show, a podcast featuring candid conversations with leaders in business, real estate, and entrepreneurship.

Committed to strengthening her community, Amy co-founded the Calandrino Foundation with her husband, Phil, to equip youth with the skills and mindset needed for entrepreneurship and financial empowerment. She also serves on the Park Avenue District Board in Winter Park.

Amy lives in Central Florida with her family. Outside of work, she enjoys golf, running, and staying active with her two children. Her faith, family, and dedication to helping others grow continue to guide her both personally and professionally.